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Net-SNMP Meeting
2010-06-07

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This is the meeting agenda/notes for the Meeting held on 2010-06-07.

Date and Time: 2010-06-07 20:00 UTC

Agenda

Next Meeting Date
- July 19th
Releases
- 5.2.x -- dts12
  - 5.2.6 is out!
- 5.4.x -- dts12
  - 5.4.3 is out!
- 5.6 -- hardaker
  - pre1 this week
- Release Testing
  - hardaker hasn't made progress on the results mailer yet
  - It would be a good idea to mention the output mailer in the pre1 release announcement
  - Wiki page would be a good idea: Test Results with subpages per release
  - hardaker has a reference to a build/package system he needs to look into that may be like the old SF build system that went away
- Binary Releases
  - Still need to fill out the Release Instructions webpage
Administrative
Technical Discussions
- Test infrastructure -- hardaker
- Whether or not the triple build infrastructure should be unified to a single build infrastructure.
  - EG, CMake
  - hardaker has a plan to extract the module changing and header generation functionality to an external script so that people can just run the header generation scripts without running full configure
    - Ideally it should be called from configure, but it could also be inline-sourced in both locations
- Net-SNMP V5 get/set request handler documentation [1].
  - Real issues:
    1. man pages and online copies are often out of date
      - hardaker will try to add more automation to the release generation script near 5.6 publication
    2. no high-level tutorial about how the internal of the agent works
    3. tutorials need more data
    4. many man pages are too small or useless
      - Dave will come up with a list of potential man page changes/cut-list and post to -coders
- Perl
  - NetSNMP::agent regression test 5 fails [2].
  - Status of CPAN (5.4.1)
    - Wes explains the history:

[12:40] <hardaker> so I'll start with history
[12:40] <hardaker> Way back in the day when Giovanni Marzot wrote the original perl binding he put it in CPAN.
[12:41] <hardaker> Then I met him and we had a good long conversation about how much of a pain C-bindings are in CPAN
[12:41] <hardaker> we agreed that we'd move the core source to Net-SNMP itself so that it could be more easily aligned.
[12:41] <hardaker> that's all been well and dandy.
[12:41] <hardaker> then we started updating CPAN again after most-major-version-updated
[12:41] <hardaker> at which point a few people started screaming.
[12:42] <hardaker> the versions are tightly bound (and there is a version check to ensure that you compile the right perl module against the  right Net-SNMP source )
[12:42] <hardaker> so...  if CPAN has 5.6, for example, but you have 5.5.3 on your system you'll get:
[12:42] <hardaker> 1) an update suggestion from CPAN if you use CPAN to manage your verisons
[12:43] <hardaker> 2) a make soft-error saying you have a version mismatch if you try to let CPAN update it
[12:43] <hardaker> Now, someone has complained that the CPAN source is too old.
[12:43] <hardaker> I don't have a solution.
[12:43] <hardaker> there is no version to put in CPAN that will leave people happy.
[12:43] <hardaker> so suggestions welcome about what version we should publish to CPAN.

- - - No resolution today; many different versions have many different Net-SNMP source bundles
- jsafranek: hrFSTable and hrStorageTable persistent indexes - partially implemented in new host/hrh_filesys.c and hardware/fsys/*, but I miss some pieces :(
  - Done! Thanks to dts12
- Cygwin --enable-shared build [3]: only possible if the circular dependency between libnetsnmpagent and libnetsnmphelpers is resolved -- see also [4]. What is the status of this last issue ?
  - done!
- "Zero compiler warnings" policy for 5.6+?
  - Thanks especially to Bart, we're down to very few compiler warnings in trunk. Shall we adopt a "Zero compiler warnings" policy from now onwards (not applying to 5.5.x and earlier), meaning that newly introduced warnings need to be fixed ASAP?
  - Nice in theory, but very difficult in practice to do architecture/compiler, etc, differences
Round Table -- What are ya up to?
- hardaker: (D)TLS and testing
- magfr: settable paths (The ability to set the search paths in the generated binaries independently of the prefix.)
- dts12: investigate inline documentation

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 == Agenda ==
 * Next Meeting Date
+** '''July 19th'''
 * Releases
 ** 5.2.x -- dts12
+*** '''5.2.6 is out!'''
 ** 5.4.x -- dts12
+*** '''5.4.3 is out!'''
 ** 5.6 -- hardaker
+*** '''pre1 this week'''
 ** Release Testing
+*** '''hardaker hasn't made progress on the results mailer yet'''
+*** '''It would be a good idea to mention the output mailer in the pre1 release announcement'''
+*** '''Wiki page would be a good idea: [[Test Results]] with subpages per release'''
+*** '''hardaker has a reference to a build/package system he needs to look into that may be like the old SF build system that went away'''
 ** Binary Releases
+*** Still need to fill out the [[Release Instructions]] webpage
 * Administrative
 * Technical Discussions
 ** Test infrastructure -- hardaker
 ** Whether or not the triple build infrastructure should be unified to a single build infrastructure.
+*** EG, CMake
+*** '''hardaker has a plan to extract the module changing and header generation functionality to an external script so that people can just run the header generation scripts without running full configure'''
+**** Ideally it should be called from configure, but it could also be inline-sourced in both locations
 ** Net-SNMP V5 get/set request handler documentation [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2973053&group_id=12694&atid=112694].
-*** old taken off yet?
+*** Real issues:
+***# man pages and online copies are often out of date
+***#* hardaker will try to add more automation to the release generation script near 5.6 publication
+***# no high-level tutorial about how the internal of the agent works
+***# tutorials need more data
+***# many man pages are too small or useless
+***#* Dave will come up with a list of potential man page changes/cut-list and post to -coders
 ** Perl
 *** NetSNMP::agent regression test 5 fails [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=112694&aid=2972726&group_id=12694].
 *** Status of CPAN  (5.4.1)
+**** Wes explains the history:
+ [12:40] <hardaker> so I'll start with history
+ [12:40] <hardaker> Way back in the day when Giovanni Marzot wrote the original perl binding he put it in CPAN.
+ [12:41] <hardaker> Then I met him and we had a good long conversation about how much of a pain C-bindings are in CPAN
+ [12:41] <hardaker> we agreed that we'd move the core source to Net-SNMP itself so that it could be more easily aligned.
+ [12:41] <hardaker> that's all been well and dandy.
+ [12:41] <hardaker> then we started updating CPAN again after most-major-version-updated
+ [12:41] <hardaker> at which point a few people started screaming.
+ [12:42] <hardaker> the versions are tightly bound (and there is a version check to ensure that you compile the right perl module against the  right Net-SNMP source )
+ [12:42] <hardaker> so...  if CPAN has 5.6, for example, but you have 5.5.3 on your system you'll get:
+ [12:42] <hardaker> 1) an update suggestion from CPAN if you use CPAN to manage your verisons
+ [12:43] <hardaker> 2) a make soft-error saying you have a version mismatch if you try to let CPAN update it
+ [12:43] <hardaker> Now, someone has complained that the CPAN source is too old.
+ [12:43] <hardaker> I don't have a solution.
+ [12:43] <hardaker> there is no version to put in CPAN that will leave people happy.
+ [12:43] <hardaker> so suggestions welcome about what version we should publish to CPAN.
+**** '''No resolution today; many different versions have many different Net-SNMP source bundles'''
 ** jsafranek: hrFSTable and hrStorageTable persistent indexes - partially implemented in new host/hrh_filesys.c and hardware/fsys/*, but I miss some pieces :(
+*** '''Done!  Thanks to dts12'''
 ** Cygwin --enable-shared build [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3002290&group_id=12694&atid=112694]: only possible if the circular dependency between libnetsnmpagent and libnetsnmphelpers is resolved -- see also [http://www.net-snmp.org/wiki/index.php/Library_layering]. What is the status of this last issue ?
+*** '''done!'''
+** "Zero compiler warnings" policy for 5.6+?
+*** Thanks especially to Bart, we're down to very few compiler warnings in trunk. Shall we adopt a "Zero compiler warnings" policy from now onwards (not applying to 5.5.x and earlier), meaning that newly introduced warnings need to be fixed ASAP?
+*** '''Nice in theory, but very difficult in practice to do architecture/compiler, etc, differences'''
 * Round Table -- What are ya up to?
+** hardaker: (D)TLS and testing
+** magfr: settable paths (The ability to set the search paths in the generated binaries independently of the prefix.)
+** dts12: investigate inline documentation

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